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« Thread Started on Jul 27, 2007, 1:24pm » | |
While I'll take anything I can get,obviously,but race results that I want to find really bad I'll list here,and maybe someone out there can help me then.
Races:
Any ARCA 200 @ Daytona from the 70s,except '78(have it)
1980 ARCA 200
1980 ARCA race @ Talladega
1981 ARCA race @ Talladega
The 1984 ARCA races @ Talladega
The July 1987 ARCA race @ Talladega
The July 1990 ARCA race @ Talladega
I'll see what else I can come up with.
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| | Re: Race Results I am looking for
« Reply #1 on Jul 27, 2007, 1:34pm » | |
http://www.ultimateracinghistory.com/racelist.php?year=1964
Heidegger's found quite a few for '64, some for '65 and '66 and all ARCA Daytona races since '64 to '72. Not all of them are complete, unfortunately.
I can give you the results of the Talladega races, but those would be limited to driver names and start and finish positions.
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| | Re: Race Results I am looking for
« Reply #2 on Jul 27, 2007, 1:35pm » | |
I'll take what I can get for now.
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| | Re: Race Results I am looking for
« Reply #3 on Jul 28, 2007, 4:29pm » | |
Here's what I have for the '87 July race at Talladega
Finishing position/starting position/name
1. 1 Grant Adcox
2. 10 David Simko
3. 2 Bill Venturini
4. 15 Bob Brevak
5. 3 Keith Segars
6. 23 Ronnie Thomas
7. 4 Charlie Glotzbach
8. 21 Don Marmor
9. 31 Frankie Girdler
10. 20 Red Farmer
11. 16 Tom Usry
12. 37 Ronnie Adams
13. 33 Bill Flowers
14. 22 Gary Weinbroer
15. 18 Bob Dotter
16. 28 Billy Simmons
17. 6 Bobby Coyle
18. 25 Terry Pearson
19. 27 Lee Raymond
20. 35 Randy Smith
22. 36 Jimmy Castleberry
23. 39 Gary Brooks
24. 11 Jerry Churchill
25. 38 Glenn Moon
26. 8 Kirk Bryant
27. 24 Patty Simko
28. 9 Tracy Read
29. 12 Bobby Wawak
30. 34 Gary Nufer
31. 19 Bob Keselowski
32. 17 Jerry Huffman
33. 14 Bob Schacht
34. 13 Mark Gibson
35. 40 Morris Coffman
36. 7 Ralph Jones
37. 30 Ed Sutton
38. 29 Rick O'Brien
39. 26 Gary Bettenhausen
40. 32 Leroy Maybry
As you can see, I'm missing the 21st place finisher.
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| | Re: Race Results I am looking for
« Reply #4 on Jul 28, 2007, 5:20pm » | |
For the July 1987 Talladega race, I'll add in the lap totals and make of car for the top 20. Unfortunately, my source ends there, so no help on places 21 and 22.
1. Grant Adcox, Oldsmobile, 117
2. David Simko, Chevrolet, 117
3. Bill Venturini, Chevrolet, 117
4. Bob Brevak, Buick, 117
5. Keith Segars, Chevrolet, 117
6. Ronnie Thomas, Chevrolet, 117
7. Charlie Glotzbach, Chevrolet, 115
8. Don Marmor, Chevrolet, 115
9. Frank Girdler, Pontiac, 114
10. Red Farmer, Buick, 114
11. Tom Usry, Chevrolet, 113
12. Ronnie Adams, Chevrolet, 112
13. Bill Flowers, Chevrolet, 112
14. Gary Weinbroer, Chevrolet, 111
15. Bob Dotter, Chevrolet, 108
16. Billy Simmons, Chevrolet, 108
17. Bobby Coyle, Chevrolet, 106
18. Terry Pearson, Oldsmobile, 105
19. Lee Raymond, Chevrolet, 96
20. Randy Smith, Chevrolet, 93.
If anyone has the starting lineup, we can attack this from the other end as well. We're missing starters # 5, 14, and 35. One of them is Randy Smith. The other two are the 21st and 22nd place finishers. It won't tell us which is which, but at least we'll know who the last two drivers entered in the race were.
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| | Re: Race Results I am looking for
« Reply #5 on Jul 29, 2007, 12:33am » | |
Tracy Read finished 28th,completed 78 laps in that '87 July ARCA race.
He of course was tragically killed in a crash on the backstretch trying to miss a spinning Kirk Bryant(who may be the 29th place car)
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| | Re: Race Results I am looking for
« Reply #6 on Jul 29, 2007, 2:22am » | |
Ok, it seems that Randy Smith was the 35th starter. I should be able to find out who the other two were soon enough.
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| | Re: Race Results I am looking for
« Reply #8 on Jul 29, 2007, 6:18am » | |
Bleh, 35th finisher is Morris Coffman instead of Thad Coleman, sorry...
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| | Re: Race Results I am looking for
« Reply #9 on Jul 29, 2007, 7:10am » | |
Ok, I'm officially stumped. 33rd place finisher and 14th place starter is Bob Schacht, but I still haven't been able to find the 21st place finisher.
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| | Re: Race Results I am looking for
« Reply #10 on Aug 2, 2007, 12:28am » | |
There is a good reason we can't find the 21st place finisher for the July 1987 race. The driver statistics section of the Talladega media guide has a bunch of errors.
I'll try to sort them all out tomorrow--even I need to sleep sometime--but I'll solve the immediate mystery for this race.
Billy Thomas started 5th and finished 21st. (The media guide lists this as his result for the May 1987 race, in which he did not actually compete.)
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| | Re: Race Results I am looking for
« Reply #11 on Aug 2, 2007, 10:08am » | |
I think I've got almost everything sorted out for Talladega now, although it helps that Sim's already done some of the dirty work for us. I've got it all compiled here:
http://www.ultimateracinghistory.com/racelist3.php?trackid=163
Copy away.
(Of course, having done this, now I have to go back and find lap counts, car numbers, and all that other good stuff, too.)
I'm quite confident that we now have an accurate finishing order for every ARCA race at Talladega. A few problems remain with the starting orders, however.
For the April 1970 race, starting positions may not even be available.
In the July 1983 race, Davey Allison and Kirk Bryant are both listed as starting 16th. No 15th place starter is listed.
For the rained-out July 1985 race, the 30th place starter appears to be missing.
For May 1986, Joe Booher and Steve Moore are both listed starting 23rd. No 35th place starter is listed. Here we can complare with the starting lineup posted on the main page. In the lineup, Bob Schacht is scheduled to start 14th, but does not appear in the results. 15th place qualifier Rick O'Brien started 14th. Schacht was supposed to drive car #75, which was started 37th by Davey Allison. Clearly Allison was a substitute driver, and places 15-37 each moved up one spot in the order (unlike the NASCAR practice of moving only that row forward.)
So we need to make the following corrections: Steve Moore was the 23rd place starter, and Joe Booher started 29th. Tom Bigelow, who is listed as the 29th place starter, should be 35th. This completes the starting grid.
For July 1986, we have another problem. Burgess White is listed as starting 38th, but there are only 36 cars in the race, and the 22nd starter is missing. I'll list him starting 22nd unless some evidence to the contrary is discovered, and consider this one solved as well.
For the April 1995 race, 21st place finisher Frank Kimmel and 22nd place Joey Sonntag are both listed as starting 14th. One of them is the missing 41st place starter.
So, with the exceptions noted above that have not been resolved, we now have accurate starting and finishing orders for every ARCA race at Talladega.
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| | Re: Race Results I am looking for
« Reply #12 on Aug 2, 2007, 12:04pm » | |
I have the starting lineup for the '86 May race.
I also have an idea of who drove what for the '84 Talladega races.
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| | Re: Race Results I am looking for
« Reply #13 on Aug 2, 2007, 2:22pm » | |
heidegger75,
On the '84 results,you have K.C. Spurlock as C.K. Spurlock.
Will have most of the car #s,sponsors and makes up on the site shortly. My qualifying lineup seems to be a bit off from what actually occured in race,it seems.
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« Reply #14 on Aug 2, 2007, 2:36pm » | |
Good eye.
Fixed it.
Thanks.
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